De Profundis

"My seminary professor friend, mentioned above, wondered if we cannot therefore see the chaos and crisis in the Church of the past sixty years as directly related to the loss, caused by all of the liturgical abuses, of the sanctifying grace that the sacraments bring. This is a profound insight and something that is greatly overlooked. If we really believe what we say we believe about the necessity and importance of the sacraments in the entire economy of salvation, then the loss of the graces associated with those sacraments cannot be without real effects in the life of the Church."

catholicworldreport.com

In praise of Gestis verbisque

Pope Francis offers Mass for the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God in St. Peter's Basilica on January 1, 2022. / © Daniel Ibáñez/EWTN/Vatican Pool. The latest document from the DDF, Gestis verbisque, is a breath of fresh air. It addresses a pressing situation long in need of papal attention, stretching back decades, and does so with some uncharacteristic clarity. After Traditionis custodes was issued many in the Church wondered if Pope Francis would clamp down with equal force on liturgical abuses in general or if he really just wanted to suppress the old Mass and to leave it at that. Well, here you go. I recently interviewed Bishop James Conley of Lincoln, Nebraska; both of us took note of the fact that the so-called “reform of the reform” of the liturgy seems to have lost its steam and is need of reinvigoration. Left unsaid was the fact that this slowing down of the reform has happened primarily under this papacy; Pope Francis has not indicated a deep desire for the Church to do much …

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"caused by all of the liturgical abuses"
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Did he mean Novus Ordo as the sum of all the liturgical abuses?

John A Cassani

If seminary professors are actually wondering whether the loss of sanctifying grace is the source of the chaos, rather than being certain that it is the cause, shows why priests continue to be so poorly formed. The Council was silent on the Sacraments (not silent on the liturgy, but silent on matters of how Sacraments work to achieve the goal of salvation of souls). The “hermeneutic of continuity” folks saw this as meaning that Trent’s proclamations are still in effect. But, the “real Vatican II,” the one that sees the Church as having been re-founded in 1962, saw this as a green light to push a completely new sacramental theology, that was based more on feelings than truth. I guarantee that clergy formed in this nonsense will laugh at any attempt to impose some objective standard on sacramental Rites. Some, hopefully, will realize the error of their ways.

spinmeister

It isn't because of "liturgical abuses," it's because the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass was abrogated entirely and a Protestant meal service replaced it, which imparts no grace.

Dr Bobus

I'm no fan of the Novus Ordo, but to say it is invalid, thus imparting no grace, contradicts ex opere operato and it heresy

philosopher

If a priest gave a confession in a Bordello it wouldn't be invalid but it also wouldn't be appropriate. We can't reduce the sacraments to a minimalist formulation. God must be honored.