Sedevacantist Consecration with John Paul II Music

en.news4 years ago

Sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn, 72, "consecrated" Germán Fliess on November 30 as new bishop of his group, the Roman Catholic Institute.

The "consecration" took place in Fraser, Michigan. In his homily, Sandborn justified this step by claiming that there hasn't been a pope since 1958 and that the Vatican has started a new religion after Pius XII.

The surprising part of the ceremony was the inclusion of musical emotionalism of the Council Church, i.e. Father Marco Frisina's Anima Christi (magnificently sung, Video below).

Frisina, 68, the current chapel master of the Lateran Basilica and head of the choir of Rome Diocese, was John Paul II's composer at court (“Jesus Christ, You Are My Life,” "Aprite le porte a Christo”).

Sandborn was ordained a priest by Archbishop Lefebvre but was expelled from PiusX in 1983, and founded the Society of Pius V which he left in 1991. His episcopal lineage goes back to the controversial Huế Archbishop Ngô Đình Thục (+1984) who was excommunicated and reconciled with Rome twice.

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rhemes15824 years ago

How about that: Even after that suggestive title the comments are all still positive!

Kenjiro M. Yoshimori4 years ago

Why would they be anything but positive? This is the True Mass, This is True Catholicism. Francis and his Vatican are Homo loving Heretics. Catholics who know all that, see all that, and yet say "Yes, Holy Father, Whatever you say is right, Holy Father Francis". are brainwashed robots, and are being led into heresy themselves. Catholics who still cling to the notion of the "Holy Father", GROW UP!! Francis is nothing of the kind.

rhemes15824 years ago

I am happy to see the comments be positive about the grandeur, and solemnity of the ceremony.

Kenjiro M. Yoshimori4 years ago

I don't understand? How could anyone criticize this beautiful ceremony, and even beautiful music? Because they are sedevacantists? Schismatics? Not in union with "Our Holy Father?". Grow up, people. This is real Catholicism, and so is the ICRSP, CRMI, and SSPX... not the everyday Novus Ordo Mass, or the garbage spewing out from the Vatican and Pope Francis and his people daily. One of his "cardinals" just invoked the prayers to the "Pachamamma" in November. Being in union with a Pope and Vatican like that is of no value....not in the eyes of God I am sure.

DJRESQ4 years ago

The problem here is that "Bishop" Sanborn's episcopal consecration is highly suspect, as the original Thuc "consecrations," from which Father Sanborn's alleged consecration derives, are very much in question.
In fact, they were so much in question that, years ago, Father Sanborn himself did not believe they were valid.
Father's claim to be a bishop is dubious at best, and its authenticity cannot be demonstrated; therefore, there is no way to ascertain the validity of his consecrations. He is, however, a valid priest.
Father Cekada stated that he and Father Sanborn spent 1000 hours trying to determine whether the Thuc consecrations, which were secretive, were valid.
Thuc unfortunately became involved with the Palmar da Troya fiasco, which may have been authentic in the beginning but was usurped by some obviously very unstable people, with Clemente being the major one.

Kenjiro M. Yoshimori4 years ago

If Thuc was himself validly consecrated a Bishop, then anyone he consecrated a Bishop was valid. That's what I read. And that's what I believe.

foward4 years ago

I prefer Gregorian chant, but this music is not a problem.

CatMuse4 years ago

schmaltzy

Laura Yunque4 years ago

What a time to be alive! Through the grace of God and by His Hand, I was moved from N.O. and brought into Tradition, the Truth. Since being in Tradition, I am now understanding that there are divisions among those who believe they are practicing the true Catholic faith. This is very painful. We have the SSPX, the SSPV the SSPX-MC and then a smattering of individual priests and bishops out there who are on their own. Each one of these groups and individuals is firing at the other. It is terrible. There is no refuge, there is no peace and there won't be for quite some time. There are those within Tradition who may not be receiving valid sacraments because of all of this fighting. I don't understand a lot of it. It just seems to me that everybody thinks he's right and everyone else is wrong. I will cling to Tradition, the true Catholic faith, but I got to tell you, the fighting among these men is disheartening. It isn't just that they're fighting, but they all think they're right and they can't all be right. We know that the N.O. is wrong. However, why can't those in Tradition agree? How is it that some are rejecting things like baptism of fire? How is it that some do not accept that the office of the papacy is occupied right now? Some think we haven't had a pope in over 30 years. - How is this? It just all seems so very wrong. They all think they're right They all think they have the fullness of the Truth. They all think they alone are the ones who are holding on to Tradition and yet they can't agree.Many of these priests and bishops are forming their own churches, each one claiming they are right and they alone have the Catholic Truth. It's as if synodality is happening even among Tradition. It just seems that She's breaking apart at the seams no matter where we look.

Seabass4 years ago

I'm a convert from the NO to Tradition. It seems to me the level of Truth one reaches is directly related to how many magesterial documents they're willing to read. It's surprising how many won't read a one page Papal Bull.

Irishpol4 years ago

We were told there would be “diabolical disorientation”. We now witness it.

Kenjiro M. Yoshimori4 years ago

Beautiful music, beautiful ceremony. Regardless of "sedevacantism" THIS IS TRUE CATHOLIC, not the garbage that comes from the Vatican of "Pope" Francis. I would attend this ceremony, before I would attend another worthless Vatican II service. The comparisson is stark. One (this) is totally Catholic, and would be recognizable by Catholics 500 years ago. What we have now, any Catholic woo died pre-1970 when the Novus Ordo came out would automatically assume that it was Protestant in some Calvinist Church. Which it is.