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Novus Ordo Must Be Accepted in Obedience - Cardinal Brandmüller



Cardinal Walter Brandmüller, 97, appeals on Diakonos.be (February 24) to find a rite of the Mass that finally corresponds to Vatican II. His main points, shortened for readability.

- It was not Sacrosanctum Concilium of Vatican II, but the post-conciliar implementation that opened a rift in much of the Catholic world.

- One must ask why Paul VI’s reforms was perceived as a break with tradition.

- The consequences were grave: arbitrariness and unbridled individualism replaced the Mass with personal compositions, even in ring binders.

- The result was liturgical chaos and an unprecedented exodus from the Church that continues today.

- Paul VI’s reform of the missal, though not without flaws, faced criticism that, while often understandable, was not justified.

- The “Novus Ordo,” promulgated by the pope, had to be accepted in obedience despite legitimate criticism.

- If Christ’s obedience unto death is made present in the Eucharist, it cannot be celebrated in disobedience.

- For some, the reforms were insufficient. They continued improvised liturgies born of personal creativity.

- Others opposed in the name of the “Mass of all time,” ignoring that the rite has developed over centuries.

- The only “Mass of all time” is the words of consecration, transmitted in varying forms in Scripture.

- The absolutizing of the Mass’s convivial character led - and still leads - to grave, sometimes blasphemous abuses.

- It depends on the individual priest whether the Mass follows the “Novus Ordo” faithfully or personal ideas prevail.

- Episcopal interventions against abuses have been rare.

- To avoid or heal fractures in unity, a peace - or at least a truce - on the liturgical front is necessary. This begins with disarming the language about liturgy.

- Mutual accusations must cease; neither side should question the other’s seriousness. Tolerance and restraint are required.

- Both sides must ensure a liturgy that faithfully respects norms.

- This warning applies not only to innovators but also to supporters of the “old Mass.”

- Both sides should study Sacrosanctum Concilium and assess later developments in its light.

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jimcat

No. The Novus Ordo is spiritually dangerous. It dilutes the Faith. It cannot be accepted.
- The result was liturgical chaos and an unprecedented exodus from the Church that continues today.
In Vaticanese, this is known as a “new Pentecost” - which it is, for everyone but Catholics. It is unbelievable, truly scandalous, that a destroyer of the Church such as Paul VI has been canonised.

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brhenry

Saint.

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Robert P Hartley

No Pope has the authority to change the Traditions of the Church. The TLM is clearly part of the Tradition of the Church, and was codified by the dogmatic Council of Trent. Furthermore, the Novus Ordo isn’t from Vatican II, but was concocted after VII by a masonic archbishop and six protestant ministers. The Novus Ordo was rejected in 1967 by the college of Cardinals. Additionally, the Novus Ordo contains practices that are forbidden by the Church but were allowed to continue under “indults” that were granted once the abuses became widespread. Finally, any priest who has faculties to offer Mass in the diocese can offer the TLM for a group of Catholics. No special or additional permission is needed. No Pope, bishop, Monsignor or any other prelate of the Church can forbid the Mass. The Mass is the most important expression of Christ’s presence on Earth. The faithful have a right to the Mass and the priest has a duty to provide it.

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Louis IX

How about “No”?

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Louis IX

Amazing that he knows almost nothing about liturgy.

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foward

Another one.

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john333

Theology of the mass is the issue not Latin. 'lex orandi, lex credendi' the law of what has to be prayed constitutes the law of what has to be believed
THE OTTAVIANI INTERVENTION The Ottaviani Intervention

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Ivan Tomas

and ... lex vivendi.

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Ivan Tomas

With each new day it seems to become more certain that the 2VC-revolution was official beginning of the great apostasy.
First we've had the modernists, the infiltrants and the lukewarm ones who said: Modern way is right way, so everyone must follow it.
Secondly, there where the infiltrants, sodomites and lukawarm ones (again) who said: Sodomy is love, so everyone must bend his knee for this "love" too.
Thirdly, there were/are the reprobates, neocons, and always again those lukewarm ones who are now saying: Zip it or be silence, go to novus ordo circus because of the obedience (to what?), and make no drama if you in short time never again ever could have a Catholic holy Mass,... otherwise, you will be anathemised (by much less if any Catholics than you)!
Give me a break!

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Anthony November

I think letters like this are only persuasive if one hasn’t taken the time to examine the actual changes made to the prayers and rubrics of the Mass. Once you study them closely, the differences are unmistakable.
Even the General Instruction, first promulgated after Vatican II, initially offered a definition of the Mass so theologically outrageous that it had to be revised almost immediately. But by then, the underlying shift in emphasis was already evident. If the intention behind the mass is not sacrifice, but assembly, then during the Consecration one cannot be blamed in questioning whether the priest intends to do what the Church intends.

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Simon North

@Anthony November Excellent insight. May I add that if he was aware of the study done by Dr. Laura Pristas (a Novus Ordo college professor)with her conclusion that the Collects of the New Mass pray differently than the Mass of Pius V, I doubt if he would have written as he did.

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Irishpol

Thank you @Anthony November. You’ve said it well. Perhaps Cardinal Brandmuller should expose himself to something other than what the German Episcopal Conference is promoting.
He bases his defense of the Novus Ordo Mass by first knocking down the straw dog of Sacrosanctum Concilium. While, admittedly, the document triggered the Novus Ordo, like most of the other Vatican II documents, it is fraught with ambiguities and is therefore only indirectly responsible for the Protestant liturgy that ultimately resulted.
That disgraceful composition lies at the feet of Fr. Annibale Bugninni (later rewarded with an archbishop’s crozier for his creation) and, of course, Pope Paul VI, who appointed Bugninni and approved the Mass. But regardless of where one wants to place the blame, the errors of their Novus Ordo and Vatican II have been around for over half a century and have been brought to the attention of the Vatican, in detail, by faithful Catholic theologians since the days of Pope John Paul II, yet all have been ignored.
Brandmuller is now trying to convince foolish and brain-dead Catholics who are unwilling to read and learn what the authentic teachings of the Church have been since time immemorial. Instead, most are willing to take the fool’s road and “obediently’ follow the Protestant teachings and liturgy of a Modernist Pope who, like the rest of the leaders of the Church today, has been indoctrinated in the Modernist-inspired seminaries.
For the sake of all souls who will ultimately face Jesus Christ on their day of judgment, I pray that his deceptive and anti-Catholic advice is ignored.

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Father Karl A Claver

It boils down to this: what is greater, faith or obedience?

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jimcat

Obedience to God has the primacy over obedience to men; even if those men are Churchmen.

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sługa Boży

For Catholics, Holy Catholic Tradition is the Holy Church;
for pederasts and all sorts of degenerates,
post-conciliar modernism is a great church.
This is the difference between these spiritualities,
though in a nutshell, because Mary at La Salette said already in the 19th century that there is NO ONE WORTHY TO CELEBRATE THE MOST HOLY SACRIFICE AMONG THE "CLERGY." So the decline and decay progressed in full swing from the Rev. Fr. and SV2, and this rot was the crowning achievement – ​​a visible sign of apostasy, for all who did not accept lies and blindness. Those who were born into the Great Apostasy (2 Thess 2) had more difficulty recovering, but even they today, in view of the enormity of the abomination, have no excuse for persisting in it.
Ps Google's automatic translator is responsible for any translation errors ;)

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eva333

Does Brandmuller deny that the Novus Ordo Mass was created by Protestants under Paul VI? (Even if it is valid, it has lost many blessings and has led to disrespect for the Eucharist)

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CatMuse

Reform of the deformed again. They tried to genetically modify the Mass and they spawned a herd of mutants. Now Cardinal is asking that they try a better attempt at genetic modification.

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Boanerges Boanerges

Those who were supposed to prevent 13 years of heresy from Vatican are now speaking up, pretending this is only about liturgy

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